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01/23/2024 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:32:40 PM SB117
04:26:49 PM Adjourn
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Overview: State Affairs Expectation
*+ SB 117 REGULATION OF FIREWORKS TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 23, 2024                                                                                        
                           3:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Scott Kawasaki, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Matt Claman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 117                                                                                                             
"An  Act relating  to fireworks;  repealing  restrictions on  the                                                               
sale of fireworks;  directing the Department of  Public Safety to                                                               
adopt  fireworks  regulations;  and providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 117                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REGULATION OF FIREWORKS                                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/29/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/29/23       (S)       STA, L&C                                                                                               
01/23/24       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HALL, President                                                                                                          
Houston Chamber of Commerce                                                                                                     
Houston, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 117.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN BARLOW                                                                                                                    
Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                             
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a sectional analysis of SB 117.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LLOYD NAKANO, Director, State Fire Marshal                                                                                      
Division of Fire and Safety                                                                                                     
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Presented  SB 117  on behalf  of the  Senate                                                             
Rules Committee, sponsor by request.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SCOTT KAWASAKI  called the  Senate State  Affairs Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:32  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Bjorkman,  Merrick,  and  Chair  Kawasaki.                                                               
Senators Claman and Wielechowski arrived thereafter.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                 SB 117-REGULATION OF FIREWORKS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI announced  the consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.                                                               
117 "An Act relating to  fireworks; repealing restrictions on the                                                               
sale of fireworks;  directing the Department of  Public Safety to                                                               
adopt  fireworks  regulations;  and providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:33:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI joined the meeting.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:33:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  invited Mr. Nakano,  State Fire Marshal  from the                                                               
Department of Public, to present SB 117.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:33:55 PM                                                                                                                    
LLOYD NAKANO, Director, State Fire  Marshal, Department of Public                                                               
Safety (DPS), Anchorage,  Alaska, introduced SB 117  on behalf of                                                               
Governor  Dunleavy.  The  bill would  eliminate  the  substantive                                                               
statutes  governing  fireworks  and   authorize  and  direct  the                                                               
Department of  Public Safety (DPS)  to adopt regulations  for the                                                               
sale, storage, and use of fireworks.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
BRYAN BARLOW,  Deputy Commissioner, Department of  Public Safety,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, provided the sectional analysis of SB 117:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                        Senate Bill 117                                                                                       
                    Regulation of Fireworks                                                                                   
            Sectional Analysis - Version 33-GS1356\A                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
     Section 1:  Amends the definition of  "explosive" under                                                                  
     Alaska Statute (AS) 11.81.900(b)(24)  to conform to the                                                                    
     proposed repeal of AS 18.72.100  under Section 5 of the                                                                    
     bill. Currently, AS  18.72.100 provides the definitions                                                                    
     for terms  used in  AS 18.72 and  fireworks regulations                                                                    
     adopted  in  the state  fire  safety  code. Under  this                                                                    
     bill,   these   definitions   would   be   adopted   in                                                                    
     regulations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Repeals and reenacts AS  18.72.010 relating                                                                  
     to regulation  of the sale  of dangerous  fireworks. It                                                                    
     directs the Department of Public  Safety (DPS) to adopt                                                                    
     regulations   relating   to   minimum   standards   for                                                                    
     fireworks, including  sale, storage,  distribution, and                                                                    
     use;  permits DPS  to establish  by regulation,  and to                                                                    
     charge,  reasonable  fees  for  fireworks  permits  and                                                                    
     inspections; and  provides DPS  the authority  to enter                                                                    
     any  building where  fireworks are  stored or  kept for                                                                    
     the  purpose  of  inspecting fireworks  for  compliance                                                                    
     with regulations adopted under this section.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3: Amends  AS 18.72.040  relating to  criminal                                                                  
     penalties for  failing to comply with  firework laws by                                                                    
     deleting  "provisions  of  this chapter"  in  favor  of                                                                    
     "regulations  adopted under  AS  18.72.010" to  conform                                                                    
     with the proposed changes made in Section 2.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4:  Amends AS  18.72.060 relating  to municipal                                                                  
     regulation  of fireworks  to  conform  to the  proposed                                                                    
     changes  made in  this bill  by deleting  references to                                                                    
     the  standards under  AS 18.72.  The authority  remains                                                                    
     for  municipalities to  adopt fireworks  standards that                                                                    
     are  more   restrictive,  but  not  less,   than  state                                                                    
     regulations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:  Repeals AS 18.72.020 and  the regulation of                                                                  
     sale  of   salable  fireworks;   AS  18.72.030   and  a                                                                    
     fireworks  wholesaler's license;  and AS  18.72.100 and                                                                    
     the  definitions under  chapter 72.  The standards  and                                                                    
     definitions  outlined   in  these  sections   would  be                                                                    
     adopted in regulations.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     Section 6:  Provides transition  language to  allow DPS                                                                  
     to proceed  with adopting  regulations before  the bill                                                                    
     takes  effect. The  regulations would  not take  effect                                                                    
     before the effective date of the bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7: Provides  an immediate  effective date  for                                                                  
     Section 6. The  remainder of the bill  has no effective                                                                    
     date provision and would therefore  take effect 90 days                                                                    
     after enactment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN joined the meeting.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:40:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MERRICK  asked  for clarification  on  the  fiscal  note                                                               
update  timeline  and the  January  1,  2024, deadline  to  adopt                                                               
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:40:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO stated that the deadline is 2025.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  questioned  the   proposed  repeal  of  AS                                                               
18.72.010 under  Section 2 of SB  117. He asked if  fireworks are                                                               
currently used for agricultural or wildlife control.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:41:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO said  that he  is  unaware of  agricultural or  other                                                               
business use other than retail wholesale and displays in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:42:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   stated  that  he  has   no  knowledge  of                                                               
fireworks usage for agricultural  purposes. He asked if repealing                                                               
this section would allow fireworks usage for wildlife control.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:42:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO said  he would  follow up  after consulting  with the                                                               
wildlife industry.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:42:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  referred to  Section  5  of the  sectional                                                               
analysis  and inquired  about a  liability insurance  requirement                                                               
under SB 117.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO replied  that there  would be  a liability  insurance                                                               
requirement  to   modernize  current  statute   to  appropriately                                                               
reflect  necessary  standards,  codes, and  regulations.  Current                                                               
statute was  written in  1969 and  has undergone  minimal changes                                                               
since.  He  provided  an example  of  wholesale  retail  licenses                                                               
requiring a social security number in accordance with statute.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:44:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked if a regulations draft exists.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:44:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO responded no.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  about the  bill's minimum  effective                                                               
date  and whether  a  change  is recommended  to  allow time  for                                                               
regulation updates.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:44:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO replied yes, no later than 2025.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:45:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked for  confirmation that  the effective                                                               
date should be updated to 2025.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NAKANO  confirmed that the  effective date should  be updated                                                               
to 2025.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:45:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN noted  that he  is aware  of rural  residents who                                                               
travel to  Canada to obtain  firework-like devices used  for game                                                               
management  or  unexpected bear  encounters,  and  asked if  such                                                               
usage would be regulated.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO  stated that  research would need  to be  conducted to                                                               
determine product safety.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked  whether sales would be  permitted in Alaska                                                               
if the definition was met.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. NAKANO  reiterated that he would  have to do research  on the                                                               
composition of the material in order to provide an answer.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI shifted to the presentation on SB 117.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO  moved to slide 2  and said that SB  117 would require                                                               
the Department  of Public  Safety (DPS)  to adopt  regulations to                                                               
protect life and property from explosions:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What does the bill do?                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Repeals and reenacts Alaska Statute (AS) 18.72.010:                                                                        
     the regulation of fireworks                                                                                                
        o Requires regulations to establish minimum                                                                             
          standards for sale and use of fireworks                                                                               
             square4 National Fire Protection Association (NFPA)                                                                
               Standards                                                                                                        
         square4 American Pyrotechnic Association (APA)                                                                         
             square4 U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  said  fireworks would  be  for  sale, storage,  and  American                                                               
Pyrotechnics displays,  ensuring safety for  businesses, firework                                                               
showrunners, and individual consumers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:47:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked if current  regulations are more strict than                                                               
existing minimum standards under federal regulations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:48:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO said he would follow up on the question.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:48:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if SB 117 would need  to meet federal                                                               
standards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO  shared that  the  bill  would require  standards  to                                                               
follow   suit   with   the  fireworks   industry   and   American                                                               
Pyrotechnics Association.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked Mr.  Nakano where  in SB  117 federal                                                               
fire standards are referenced.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:49:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  clarified  that   Section  2  of  the  sectional                                                               
analysis mentions  general standards  but does not  cite specific                                                               
federal regulatory agencies.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO  stated  that  because  definitions  in  statute  are                                                               
obsolete,  the fireworks  industry  in Alaska  came  to DPS  with                                                               
recommended  standards  &  regulations  in  an  attempt  to  more                                                               
closely   align  the   definitions   in   statute  with   current                                                               
definitions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  wondered if  the legislature  could specify                                                               
that the regulations should follow the standards at a minimum.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO said  that  he  would not  reject  that proposal  and                                                               
recommended building upon current language.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:51:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked how standards differ from current law.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO stated  that the  goal  is to  modernize and  justify                                                               
statute regarding retail and wholesale sales.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:51:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR    WIELECHOWSKI    asked   how    American    Pyrotechnic                                                               
Association's standards differ from current law.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:52:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO suggested  that the  definitions are  old and  do not                                                               
match current statute.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  for a  side-by-side  comparison  of                                                               
current state statutes and regulations within federal standards.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:52:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI said  that Mr.  Nakano would  report back  to the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:52:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO referenced slide 3.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What does the bill repeal?                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        • AS 18.72.020: Regulation of salable fireworks                                                                         
        • AS 18.72.030: Fireworks wholesaler's license                                                                          
        • AS 18.72.100: Definitions                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO spoke to slide 4.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Why is this bill needed?                                                                                                   
        • Existing statute (AS 18.72) originally adopted                                                                        
         over 50 years ago without being substantially                                                                          
          amended                                                                                                               
        • Out of date with modern regulations set at the                                                                        
          national and international level                                                                                      
        • Statutory changes not easily undertaken                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:54:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO continued to slide 5.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What is changed under this bill?                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Criminal penalties  under AS  18.72.040 would  be based                                                                    
     on  failure   to  comply  with  regulations   under  AS                                                                    
     18.72.010 instead of the Fire Safety Code                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Regulations  under  AS  18.72.010 would  supersede  the                                                                    
     provisions  of  an  ordinance  adopted  by  a  city  or                                                                    
     borough,  whether before  or after  May 23,  1969, that                                                                    
     are less restrictive than the regulations                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The Fire Safety  Code defined in AS  18.72.100 would be                                                                    
     repealed in  regulations adopted  by the  Department of                                                                    
     Public Safety, Division of Fire and Life Safety                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:55:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  said  that  as   a  legislator  from  Anchorage,                                                               
traveling  to  less regulated  sale  locations,  such as  Gorilla                                                               
Fireworks, is  necessary to obtaining  fireworks. He  asked about                                                               
the proposed legislation's effect on these types of businesses.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:55:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO replied that local  jurisdictions would set ordinances                                                               
or resolutions to align with state standards.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:56:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  asked  if  Gorilla   Fireworks  are  under  less                                                               
restrictive standards than federal standards due to location.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:56:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO responded that he was unsure.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  added that  due  to  city ordinances,  Fairbanks                                                               
residents had to travel to  Nenana to acquire fireworks. However,                                                               
fireworks are now available in  the Fairbanks North Star Borough,                                                               
but are illegal within city limits.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:57:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  noted  that  Fairbanks  restricts  the  sale  of                                                               
fireworks, but the North Star borough does not.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  suggested that  according to  AS 18.72.010,                                                               
state regulations  would supersede provisions of  city or borough                                                               
ordinances.  In theory,  a future  regulatory body  could enforce                                                               
exceedingly restrictive regulations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO  confirmed that  the scenario  is possible,  but noted                                                               
that  local  jurisdictions  are   the  bodies  establishing  more                                                               
restrictive regulations.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI stated that he  understands that is the case                                                               
currently,  but  opined  that  a  future  regulatory  body  could                                                               
effectively  ban  or severely  restrict  fireworks  in the  state                                                               
under the provision.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:59:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NAKANO  replied that  the aim  of the  statute change  was to                                                               
modernize the  fireworks program in  Alaska, rather than  make it                                                               
more restrictive.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  reiterated that the state  could adopt base                                                               
regulations so  municipalities would automatically reach  more or                                                               
restrictive regulations.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:00:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BARLOW  stated that while  it is  possible, the intent  is to                                                               
update   fireworks   laws   to   reflect   best   practices   and                                                               
international standards to ensure citizen safety.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:01:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  said that caveats exist  under the Administrative                                                               
Procedures Act (APA)  that could apply general law  to areas with                                                               
a higher fire  risk regarding emergency regulations.  He asked if                                                               
this understanding  was correct  under the  American Pyrotechnics                                                               
Association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:02:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BARLOW  replied that emergency  closures or  enactments based                                                               
on environmental conditions would remain the same.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:02:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI opened public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:03:15 PM                                                                                                                    
ROBERT  HALL, President,  Houston Chamber  of Commerce,  Houston,                                                               
Alaska, testified  in support  of SB  117. He  stated that  he is                                                               
also  the  owner of  Gorilla  Fireworks.  The biggest  hurdle  is                                                               
outdated  shipping  definitions  for  firework  sales.  The  1.4g                                                               
international shipping  category has increased  consumer firework                                                               
sales  regulations.   Other  federal  regulatory   agencies  have                                                               
increasingly restricted  labeling and explosive  limit standards.                                                               
Alaska was left  with an antiquated and  confusing law, mandating                                                               
legislative statute updates.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The State Fire Marshal could  provide updated definitions through                                                               
the  regulatory   process.  One  existing  loophole   allows  the                                                               
distribution of professional fireworks  to Alaska. The definition                                                               
of 'professionals'  was reclassified as 1.4G,  creating confusion                                                               
in interpretation.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There  is an  urgent need  to update  the definition  of saleable                                                               
consumer  fireworks. The  State  Fire Marshal  cannot change  the                                                               
definition  in   statute.  Unlike  Alaska,  other   states  allow                                                               
consumers  to load  up  a truck  of fireworks.  For  the last  20                                                               
years,  the State  Fire Marshal  has experienced  obstacles as  a                                                               
result of  an unclear definition.  A recent loophole  was exposed                                                               
as a result of COVID-19  and Chinese shipping categories that are                                                               
difficult to  enforce. Two years  ago, a 17-page letter  was sent                                                               
to the State  Fire Marshal with recommended  statute updates. The                                                               
regulatory process has caused challenges with enforcement.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:09:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HALL  urged redefining the  statutory definition  of consumer                                                               
fireworks  through the  legislature  or allowing  the State  Fire                                                               
Marshal to do it.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:11:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  that  the testimony  was helpful.  He                                                               
asked for a definition of saleable fireworks.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:11:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HALL relayed  that there is no simple  federal definition for                                                               
consumer  fireworks,  which  are  regulated  by  several  federal                                                               
regulatory bodies, so there is  no individual control. However, a                                                               
composite definition was  offered by the industry  along with 3-4                                                               
recommendations to address the issue.  The State Fire Marshal may                                                               
require more  authority in  some cases. He  offered to  follow up                                                               
with one  of two definitions  provided by the  fireworks industry                                                               
to the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI agreed to accept definitions once provided.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:13:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN   asked  why  state   statute  could   not  adopt                                                               
regulations consistent with federal standards.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:14:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HALL clarified that it is  doable, but the State Fire Marshal                                                               
prefers to  directly update statute for  future ease. Flexibility                                                               
is  needed   so  future  statute   amendments  are   less  likely                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:15:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether it  is difficult for a  business to                                                               
know and comply with federal fireworks regulations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HALL  responded no.  There are  no challenges  complying with                                                               
regulations  as a  reputable dealer.  The problem  lays with  the                                                               
black   market,   existing   loopholes,  and   antiquated   state                                                               
definitions.  Certain  grey  areas surrounding  definitions  need                                                               
clarification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:17:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN opined  that permitting the State  Fire Marshal to                                                               
adopt  regulations could  risk  discrepancies  between state  and                                                               
federal regulations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HALL  replied yes. He  suggested that the State  Fire Marshal                                                               
could  adopt regulations  by reference.  Federal regulations  are                                                               
well defined,  but local jurisdictions maintain  more limitations                                                               
than the State Fire Marshal and  can determine when a product can                                                               
be  used. Maintaining  limitations  can be  challenging in  rural                                                               
areas  where  there  is  no   fire  chief.  Adopting  good  clean                                                               
definitions  is necessary.  While the  current law  is confusing,                                                               
there are no legal penalties surrounding 1.4G fireworks.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  asked Mr. Nakano to  provide additional materials                                                               
to the committee before the next hearing.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:22:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO  said  the  local laws  do  not  include  pyrotechnic                                                               
operators and displays covered under the official fire code.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI referenced  Section  2  of SB  117  and asked  if                                                               
regulations exist for reasonable fees for firework permits.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:24:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NAKANO replied  that  there are  only  retail and  wholesale                                                               
charges.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:24:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASKI held SB 117 for future consideration.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:26:49 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Kawasaki  adjourned  the  Senate  State  Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 4:26 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 117 Sectional Analysis Version-A 01.21.2024.pdf SSTA 1/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 117
SB 117 Transmittal Letter 04.07.23.pdf SSTA 1/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 117
SB 117 Fiscal Notes.pdf SSTA 1/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 117
SB 117 Support letter.pdf SSTA 1/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 117